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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:08 am
Wait, so let me get this straight... you overturned one guy's decision to legitimately ban somebody for breaking forum rules on the basis of "Don't moderate based on certain rules of a dying forum"; yet you chastise and strip another guy's moderator abilities for... not moderating based on certain rules of that same dying forum.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 4:25 am
SwiftBlackNinjaMan wrote:So, what exactly is your point? "All he was doing" was encouraging users to post inappropriate filth that has no place on here. Eclipse read what Tony wrote, and not only did not delete it, he encouraged it. So, he can f*** off. Losing board mod is being let off easy. Frankly, the fair and reasonable thing to do would have been to ban both him and Tony.

Also, missing your point completely about being surprised I haven't banned people for posting in this thread. Please elaborate.

Really? All he was doing was quoting YOU. YOU are the one who stated that the "filth" was acceptable to post and not worth punishing people over. As you said before:
SwiftBlackNinjaMan wrote:Sorry if you took offense, but when I'm checking the boards daily and I usually see 1-2 active users tops, I tend to find banning one of the few active posters to be counter-productive when he's not:
-Posting pornography/borderline pornographic material
-Spamming
-Going out of his way to post personal information


So explain to me why people like Chico get their "filth" tolerated, but the "filth" of others is not. You're literally coming off as one of the most biased pieces of shit when you allow bad behavior from one person, but you condemn similar from others.

Also, my quip about you banning everyone in this thread was mocking you firing Eclipse because of how he was purely mocking you for your stupidity. Can you actually take your job seriously for once?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:46 am
Pretty much common sense to take word porn off the boards. Not going to let you try and avoid the issue of what Tony posted. Eclipse read it. Not only did he not delete it, he openly encouraged people to post this type of material. He staked his mod status on Tony's filth -after- reading it. He was fired as a result. There was no excuse for that at all. Adios.


There was very little, if anything wrong with whatever Tony did. Considering Chico can get away from reaching the line of "harassment" by putting "maybe" before telling someone to kill themselves, let me do a little dance around the rules here too.

Let's begin with the fact that multiple admins, including Eiza (who is usually the one in charge of cleaning up the forums and is usually the quiet voice of reason), have read the topic and did not delete it. Attempting to pin responsibility on Eclipse for not taking action is illogical in the case when his higher-ups did not take any action either. A moderator is a moderator, especially when that moderator's title is administrator.

Throwing aside your personal bias, let me refer to the definition of the term "pornography."

Legal Dictionary and Merriam-Webster wrote:movies, pictures, magazines, etc., that show or describe naked people or sex in a very open and direct way in order to cause sexual excitement


Key words here are "in order to cause sexual excitement." As far as I know, nobody got aroused from reading that (except maybe you, since you continue to call it pornography). Furthermore, the content was not explicit enough--nowhere in the text there is anything of a sort "Latoma stuck his dick into Swift's asshole" for example. The story relies on metaphors and leaves a lot to the reader's imagination, meaning it does not describe sexual activity in a "very open and direct way." Furthermore, it's common knowledge that intimate relationships like the one in the text is a common subject of reference in many different styles of art: Genji Mponogatari gets very explicit with its descriptions of sexual relationships and is yet considered an incredible art piece which transcends time by many. It is absolutely juvenile of you to call something which may have some intimate content pornography.

Let's not forget your claim of protecting freedom of speech on these boards either, something you are strongly backpedaling upon now. Chico may be dripping with downs, but he has right to call people "niggers" and borderline spam the word online, getting away without any repercussions. I fail to see how the burlesque Tony posted is any worse than whatever Chico has been saying for the past however many weeks this festival of trash has been going on.

Lastly, don't forget you also stated that the forums should not be over-moderated, since they are dead anyway. I mean, we did have only two rules, per your own words. Eclipse was not under any obligation to delete the thread. Sure, maybe it should have been moved, depending on your interpretation of the content. Nothing more than that was necessary. Since only around ten people browse this board, all I can pin this on is personal grudge.

I understand, no one likes to get called out on their mistakes. But please, Swift, grow up.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:38 am
That sort of material has never been allowed in-game or on the forums, and that has been consistent since the game's founding. Not sure why you posted a word wall with arguments about free speech and word semantics.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:54 pm
SwiftBlackNinjaMan wrote:That sort of material has never been allowed in-game or on the forums, and that has been consistent since the game's founding. Not sure why you posted a word wall with arguments about free speech and word semantics.


Why are you replying to this? We both know you only stripped me because you've been super salty about everything lately. Your pathetic attempt at justifications are cringeworthy. No need to waste our time, P-dog. You have students to teach.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:57 pm
SwiftBlackNinjaMan wrote:That sort of material has never been allowed in-game or on the forums, and that has been consistent since the game's founding. Not sure why you posted a word wall with arguments about free speech and word semantics.


These arguments were brought up by you, yourself, when it came up about letting Chico go and do whatever stupid shit he did. If you run through the last 3-4 topics in the server bans, they are all about going around the literal definition of rules, if not ignoring them entirely. Trying to say this game never functioned like that is silly when you bring these kinds of things up, not me.

Again, like 3 other admits saw the boards. Ice Fire himself saw the boards. No action was taken, no one got upset. So far, you are the only one who is calling that text filth. If you are going to fire Eclipse, fire like half of the staff along with him, just to be just in this case, since clearly they allowed it.
Saying that this sort of material has never been allowed is different from calling it pornography, because now we are entering a whole new area where you need to say we do not permit lewd material entirely, not pornography. Stop pushing unspoken rules.


Also, that word wall took about 4 minutes to type out, with less than 30 seconds of googling. If you cannot provide a better response other than "lol unspoken rules," you shouldn't be arguing anywhere and go take a few writing classes.

Bullshit rules example one:

Unbanned. Stop trying to moderate this like it's a real board and using ban for childish reasons. Nobody even fucking posts here. We peak at like 7 users online at a time. I'd get if he was continually posting personal info or a spambot, but for this? Come on.


And number two:

Unbanned. I think Chico's opinion is ill-informed and ignorant, but I will defend to the death his right to say it. Seriously, all of you who posted American flags go f*** yourself and read the Bill of Rights. Censorship is not how we operate here.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:06 pm
To be fair, the warning that got Chico banned, was for him calling someone a lesbian.

Now, compare that to what Tony posted.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:12 pm
DysonSlinky wrote:To be fair, the warning that got Chico banned, was for him calling someone a lesbian.

Now, compare that to what Tony posted.

He also hid in size 3 how nasty of scissoring that would be.

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DysonSlinky wrote:To be fair, the warning that got Chico banned, was for him calling someone a lesbian.

Now, compare that to what Tony posted.


Except Chico got unbanned, when he was supposed to be permabanned. Ignoring every other offense too (like posting someone's personal info).
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2016 6:14 pm
Hey man I don't give a single fug about who did what, this is a problem of poorly setting precedents. How you gonna do one situation one way and do another similar situation another way. Plain 'n simple, that isn't right.
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